Hotboost Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Hi ,I have the flying Scotsman R1039 set and one of the pins out of the valve assembly fell and went missing, Are they available / replaceable or do I need to go down the whole valve assembly path?/media/tinymce_upload/d0f4249c27cf5e2fa91413bd47d5f31d.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mico11 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Hello Hotboost, looks like relevant information from the members is scarce on this one. I had a good look and couldn't find any one who had the valve gear set, let alone the pin you are looking for.You might have a look at the4568marionsgirl site. They have got me out of trouble on occasionLet's hope someone on here can offer more explicit information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Valve gear pins weren't generally available to retail customers. I believe the ebayer mentioned had some at one time. They are rare parts now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Valve gear pins weren't generally available to retail customers. I believe the ebayer mentioned had some at one time. They are rare parts now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony57 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Hi SoTWould a Wrenn valve gear pin / rivet fit as a possible substitue replacement., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Worth a try Tony, I think they will be a bit larger so it might be a tight fit, there are some on ebay at present. I know of someone who has the correct pins but they are building a new loco service centre for UK made locos so are hanging onto their stock until they can have new ones made. They were issued as a dealer part only in the old days so when people brought a model in the shop or service dealer could repair the valve gear for a few old pence. The pins are fairly easy to fit but skill and patience is required, a small dished punch makes a good end former for them or a pair of valve gear pin pliers which are short needled nosed with a tiny dish indentation in one grip to close around the pin end to form it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Although I could not find them listed on their website, I believe Peter's Spares may have valvegear rivets - it may be worth giving them a call.Alternatively, the replacement valvegear pack is X8740 but this is hard to come by. Pack X8535B, intended to be used on 'Gordon' (virtually the same chassis as Flying Scotsman), is suitable and is also available as X8535B/1 from Peter's Spares and probably other sources.GS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 It might sound a bit "Heath Robinson" but I did once come across a repaired 9F where the two parts similar to what you need were held together with a loop of fusewire. It was not very noticeable when running on the layout until you looked really close up. Not a permanent solution perhaps, but it might be okay to keep your Scotsman running until you can find the spare part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony57 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Hi Inview it is a china made 2005 version the only way to find spares for it will be a wreck sold for spares, a complete chassis someone has split from its body or make a home made repair with substitute bits. Bring back triang hornby (days) where extra parts were made and kept in stock for repairs like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotboost Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 /media/tinymce_upload/fab19a050b865ab3d9afb5026728608e.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotboost Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 I recently bought the above parts train to switch valve assembly over .Its missing the rear wheels which is available easily enough.Im thinking switching bodies as my original one is mint and matches the tinder. Im thinking fixing the back part will easier than transfer over wheels and valve assemblies.Sorry in advance for newbies questions.I really appreciate people taking time out of their busy days to help me.Its my autistic favourite train and yes we are running 2 duplicate tinder’s be cause they did that after ww2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 A quick Google revealed a number of suppliers of tiny fastenings including rivets.this one seems to have somothing that might be modified to suit.https://prime-miniatures.co.uk/catalog/rivets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordi_q Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 R1019 /R1039 valve gear part number X8224Is showing in the hornby spares section and is available at £4.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Interesting, geordi_q, because Service sheet 259C quotes pack X8740 for R1019, R1034 and R1039!To Hotboost: the valvegear assemblies may not be interchangeable between the two chassis in your photographs because the motion bracket is plastic on one and metal on the other.GS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mico11 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Well done Going Spare. I was wondering what the difference is between X8740 and X8224.It's a £12 speculation that the pin required on both is identical.Any experts out there willing to give their opinion?Now that Hotboost has lately declared it's a swop over, I dont think he will speculate an extra £12 to find out if the X8224 pin will do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotboost Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 Well the saga contnues..Adapted the valve gear from the spare loco driven one to the tinder driven.After attacking with the dremel the metal crossover bit ( original plastic).Had to add spacers under that so it will give me enough clearance over the wheels.The screws seem to loosen themselves so I’ll redo with some loc tite to stop them loosening.I having a problem stopping the middle wheel from binding up so Ill have the put a washer so it pulls up.The front where the the guides slide in and out from arent holding the smaller piece at full extension , so I’ll check if the other one is any different.I don’t think it is but who knows the bolt threads are different so could be.Worse case I’ll buzz a smidge off and bring it back close 1mm.Once again thanks for your input as only newly back into the hobby./media/tinymce_upload/fba75c2b46e4088f3cdf243a35d72ff5.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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