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Ellocoloco

Bio: Collecting (to model one day) RENFE and Montana Rail Link in H0...

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ellocoloco

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Don't bother even trying. 

 

A July report in The Lancet reckoned transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from fomites was greatly exaggerated and a June update from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control cited there were no documented cases of transmission via fomites. Even then, the virus would unlikely have survived its time in transit.

 

It would still be a good idea not to stick your fingers in your mouth when using your model railway and to wash your hands after an operating session. You don't want to damage your models paintwork with bodily fluids or put oil, paint, glue, or other model railway contaminants into your stomach. 

ellocoloco

414 posts

Hi Briars100,

 

I have found one source showing it is Mainline 937096 - but there is not a lot of information out there which is surprising.

ellocoloco

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@Atom

 

I sprayed a few things over the last few weeks, but there's nothing like a real body to practice on - ask a doctor....but seriously, I felt I needed something with grills, doors and gutters to really see how the paint covers the finer details.

 

I can't really remember where that 37 came from! I think it was from a school friend - I certainly rescued a Mk1 coach from his garden pond where it had lain for a number of years and I think I also still have it. Around 20 years ago I bought EWS decals and maroon and gold paint along with flush glazing and a white metal detail pack with the intention of 'doing' the 37 then, but never got round to it. Now its at least out of the junk box and centre of attention for a while. I'll complete the paint job and if I'm happy with it order up some LL decals. If I go that far, I'll fit the flush glazing and other goodies and I'll have another loco I won't run....but it should be satisfying. The 66 is the real goal here though and if I am happy with it then I have expensive plans ahead....

 

I got the airbrush for my 16th birthday (Badger 200) and after trying it twice and not getting very good results I gave up - just like today's teenagers!!! 35 years later I feel I have the patience, the funds and in youtube, the online tuition to make a decent attempt. I would recommend you give it a go. We've probably all got too many trains and its in Hornby's interest if we all ruin a few of them..........so we have space for more new ones.

ellocoloco

414 posts

Going Large Logo..............

 

The Triang Hornby 37 - most likely R751 - is going Largo logo and being sacrificed so that I can practice with my airbrush and try out a few things as my Mehano 66 heads towards GBRf 66789.

 

 

I must say it has been really enjoyable so far - once I got over stripping a Loksound loco and sticking it in IPA for a week. This may take a while as I'm currently only spraying on one of my days off each week but hope to have it done by end of October!

ellocoloco

414 posts

Hi SB

 

As GS suggests, look for any excess plastic that could be causing the coupling mechanism to catch as it slides and maybe even a tiny dab of grease along the sliding edge!

 

My best suggestion though would be to get Hornby Close couplers R8220. These are based on a Roco design I have been using for over 30 years and form a solid bar between the vehicles and makes the coupling mechanism move in a controlled manner. This will be much more reliable for both pulling and pushing rolling stock as well as looking better and being easier to uncouple.

 

As you have said you are just getting back into 4mm after 50 years it might be worth looking at what coupling options are now available as there is a large variety compared to 50 years ago, and settling on a type that suits you. Many models now have what is nominally a NEM pocket into which a variety of couplings can be easily swapped in and out. I, for example use both Roco Close Couplers and Kadee 18s. Roco between wagons and Kadees at the ends of rakes of wagons or coaches and on locomotives. I use these with a variety of Electrotren (Hornby), Roco, Mabar, Mehano, Athearn, Atlas, Fleischmann, Sachsenmodelle, Liliput (Bachmann), Lima, Ktrain, and Bachmann China models and have no real issues. They also look a lot better in my eyes to the tension lock couplings of my Hornby/Triang youth! 

 

For any modeller now, I would suggest that once you have decided on a scale and gauge, the next two most important things are DC or DCC and choice of coupling!

 

Welcome to the forum and let us know how you get on with your coaches?

ellocoloco

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I can't really offer much more help regarding the couplings as OO is not really my thing and I don't have any models of the HSTs. I have just looked through the 2020 catalogue and some of the illustrations show the 'Full Spec' HSTs both with and without coupling hooks and the RR HST without. Which one do you have?

 

I must say I am rather surprised by the look of the coupling set up on the 'Full Spec' HST as I would have expected a model like that (and from the time it was designed) to have close coupling mechanisms and NEM 362 pockets.

 

Does the service sheet not list a replacement coupling??

ellocoloco

414 posts

Hi, 

 

I've just started respraying a 66.........

 

Try Railmatch paints and Railtec decals. Others are available. Rake around the websites and you'll find the ones you need.

 

Do the two units not couple together normally?? I would choose Kadees, but thats my preference and may not be compatible with the rest of your stock.

ellocoloco

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Hi David and welcome to the forum.

 

I can understand completely where you are coming from!

 

I am more of a consumer of Hornby International products, however, I did buy the centenary catalogue this year out of curiosity. If I compare the catalogue info regarding two very similar Hornby products, the OO scale BR Class 31 diesel and the HO Electrotren Renfe Class 321 diesel - both six axle designs of similar appearance and more importantly, similar models mechanically, the info presented to a potential customer is quite different.

 

In the 2017/18 Electrotren Catalogue I can instantly see that the 321 model has a 21pin DCC socket, metal chassis, flywheel, directional lighting, lit number boards, a rotating fan and a close coupling mechanism.

 

In the 2020 Hornby catalogue I can see the Class 31 has an 8pin DCC socket, five pole motor and lights (no idea what type) - I believe the Class 31 model may also have (or had) a rotating fan but cannot tell. Nor can I see if it has NEM pockets and a close coupling mechanism, something that is a must for me.

 

This is similar with coaches where I can see Electrotren Type 12000 have interior details and close coupling mechanisms where as there is no info forthcoming about the BR Mk3 SD coaches in the 2020 catalogue.

 

Unfortunately though, this forum appears seldom read by Hornby personnel and you would be best to email them directly with your suggestions. It would be good for the next catalogue and website to have much more detail.

 

 

 

ellocoloco

414 posts

Not to me, but its fascinating.

 

Can you please deatils the chain of events running up to 'total failure'?

ellocoloco

414 posts

Both the 66 and 67 have the same version on the EMD 710 series engine and the same traction motors so they should be very similar. The exhaust set up does look slightly different though.....

 

As the guys above say, there may also be differences to the 'ancillary noises'. 

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