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Chrissaf

Signature: Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Bio: Retired, but spent my career working in IT and Electronics. So using a PC to control things is what rocks my boat.

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Chrissaf

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I can confirm that line has been in the .INI file for as long as I can remember and has always been set as =1 as the default value. It is present with that value in my own RM .INI and I have never ever had an eLink......only Elite.

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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I'm going to have play about with it to see if I can find out what determines direction.......... Any idea / suggestion.

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Could it be something as simple as which is the shortest directional path to get to the destination entry/exit track that has been chosen. After all, the Heljan controller is in essence a computer using a digital 'stepping motor'. Therefore it is logical to assume that internally it can make dynamic choice decisions regarding how may 'steps' does the motor have to make if it goes 'clockwise' compared to how many steps the motor has to take if it goes 'anti-clockwise' to reach the target outlet track. The direction with the least number of steps to be taken wins.

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Although for me, the whole exercise has been a cerebral one. I have found your original posted question both 'challenging' and 'interesting'. I have learn't a lot about the Heljan TT in trying to help you with it. So thank you for posting it.

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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No worries Tricky, lots of water has passed under the bridge since your post on the 13th of March in the other thread.

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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Thank you for the feedback.

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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I have started a new thread rather than adding this to the existing 1.70 thread, to bring this new installer file availability to the attention of a wider audience.

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The FULL RailMaster installer on the main forum download link is now upgraded to RailMaster version 1.70 Revision 2 [ 1.70.2 ] from the earlier 1.70 Revision 1.

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It is assumed that this new full RM installer incorporates the BETA file changes recently performed by HRMS and documented in the existing RailMaster 1.70 thread. If this is the case, then it should fix the communication issues that some users have experienced when using either Elite or the eLink controllers.

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Just to reiterate the information given by HRMS in the other thread. When (and if) you install this new RM revision on Windows 7, 8 and 10.

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Then for Elite users, the railmaster.ini file should have:

Alternative comms=0

Check controller=0

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And for eLink users, the railmaster.ini file should have:

Alternative comms=1

Check controller=1

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Use the bluish 'COG' icon bottom left in the 'Help/About' screen to open the railmaster.ini file editor. I suggest making this .INI file change (if one is needed) on the currently installed version, before running the new 1.70.2 installer over the top of it [changes you make to the railmaster.ini file will be kept as part of the application update].

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Remember that this new version is unlikely to invoke an 'auto-detection' update and will need to be manually downloaded and updated.

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Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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@Guy_H,

TIP: As this is your first post, just be aware that the 'Blue Button with the White Arrow' is not a 'Reply to this post' button. If you want to reply to one of the posts, scroll down and write your reply in the reply text box at the bottom of the page and click the Green 'Reply' button.

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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If I have understood Rob's suggestion correctly, then the file is likely to be called rm_setup(n).exe and not railmaster(n).exe.

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For those who want or need to regress back to RM v1.69.2 but did not archive the original installer file. I really must stress that it is good practice to download and archive the installer of stable RM versions to cover for situations such as this.

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Here is a link to my own 1.69.2 archived installer. The file will need to be unZipped to extract the .exe file. My cloud service will not allow .exe files to be uploaded natively unless in a ZIP.

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https://btcloud.bt.com/web/app/share/invite/TLUevQhqGc

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When the web page opens, click the file name in the top left hand corner to download. Once unZipped, just right click the .exe file and choose 'Run as administrator'. You do not need to uninstall the 1.70.1 version first.

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Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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Gitter, two of my previous questions I asked, you haven't yet answered. But I think I might have an answer for one of them (just needs you to confirm if my answer is correct or not).

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  1. I asked "What Accessory Decoder did you choose in the pull down list in the point button dialogue box in the track design screen?".
  2. I also asked, "What action does pressing the point operating icons have?".

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With regard Q2. Is this what happens?

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Pressing one of the point operating icon buttons, the turntable bridge turns to the TT exit track that was selected by the DCC Accessory address, such that the loco sitting on the bridge can drive out onto the exit track in a forward direction.

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But pressing the other point operating icon button, the turntable bridge turns to the TT exit track that was selected by the DCC Accessory address, such that the loco sitting on the bridge can drive out onto the exit track in a reverse direction. In other words, the TT bridge finishes its turn, facing 180° round compared to the finished position when pressing the first point operating button above.

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The Heljan manual says there are a maximum of 48 position memories, but it also makes a point in bold text (see image below) that whenever a 'stop' position is configured, that another position is automatically created 180° to the first. This would mean (if logic is applied) that there are up to 24 actual physical exit/entry points that could be configured in memory, but each one is doubled to provide the 180° position as well, thus 48 position memories would be utilised for 24 track positions.

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Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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So just to reiterate for clarity. If I have understood you correctly.

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Although the Heljan TT and integrated controller has 46 potential positions. Only the ones that are configured in the Heljan controller are associated with the DCC Accessory addresses.

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So for example if on the Heljan

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If Heljan Controller Track Position 1 is actually physical Track position 5

If Heljan Controller Track Position 2 is actually physical Track position 12

If Heljan Controller Track Position 3 is actually physical Track position 20

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then

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Heljan Controller Track Position 1 is assigned DCC Accessory Address 225

Heljan Controller Track Position 2 is assigned DCC Accessory Address 226

Heljan Controller Track Position 3 is assigned DCC Accessory Address 227

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Assuming this understanding is correct, how does the point 'switch left' and 'switch right' buttons interact with the TT movement?. In other words once you call up the Accessory Address for the TT position you want i.e 226. What do you have to do to make the TT move to it?

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Supplementary question. When you were configuring the point operating button icons in the RM 'Track Designer' screen. Which decoder did you choose in the 'pull down' decoder selection box?

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Gitter, I know this is extra work for you. But I'm sure others that follow will benefit from it if they need to install a Heljan TT. I am adding this thread to my 'boilerplate' document so that I can post a link to it, if the question gets raised again.

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Could you post a screen shot of your TT and point buttons from the track plan & an example point button configuration dialogue window panel showing the settings (use the black & white hill icon in the reply window tool box). And add some 'step by step' instructions of exactly the steps you took to set it up in RM, in a 'dummies guide' format.

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It would be appreciated, I am sure.

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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One other thing to note:

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If your layout was previously a DC Analogue one and you have recently upgraded to an Elite to go DCC. Then your track probably still has DC Analogue power tracks or power clips. These are NOT compatible with DCC [this includes R8201 Link Wires if you are using them]. They either need to be either replaced with the DCC versions R8241 and/or R8242 or modified to remove the DC Analogue suppression capacitor. Failure to heed this advice is very likely to affect DCC functionality and the ability to successfully program the decoders.

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Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

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