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SOld Hornby Clockwork Great Western 2301 Set ID

Greetings,

I have acquired a very old Hornby set, and I am looking for some info on it such as when it was made, and what the rarity and value might be.

I believe the locomotive is O Gauge and what you would call "Clockwork", as the locomotive is a wind-up with a key.  The locomotive has the number 2301, and it does move when wound, although I think it may need some oiling as it takes some coaxing to get it going.  I have the locomotive, the tender, an open wagon car, and a caboose.  I am not certain if these are all originally part of one set or not.  They all appear to be Great Western/Hornby labeled, except the tender which is missing the Hornby label, but does have some stickers for GW.  Some of these are in better condition than others.  Especially the tender is in rough shape with a lot of paint having come off, and the Hornby label missing.  The other 3 units have the Hornby labels.

I am going to try to upload some photos, this is my first time trying this, so I hope it works.

Thanks in advance for any help on this!

LC&DR

8430 posts

 This is pre-War Hornby made by Meccano and looks like all part of an original set. You may find that the performance will improve with oiling but also the spring may have weakened over time although these can be replaced. The connecting rods which drive the piston rods from the rear wheels appears to be missing. These can be replaced. The Hornby Railway Collector's Association http://www.hrca.net/ has a list of dealers and repairers amongst its members who specialise in restoring these.

 

With the number 2301 it is a No.1 Special and probably dates from 1929 and in good condition is listed in the Ramsey guide as worth between £230 and £500. The condition as is may reduce that by about 50%.

Green trains are best!

Also, here is a pic of the labels on the locomotive.  It says "HORNBY MANFD BY MECCANO LTD LIVERPOOL".

@LC&DR

 This is pre-War Hornby made by Meccano and looks like all part of an original set. You may find that the performance will improve with oiling but also the spring may have weakened over time although these can be replaced. The connecting rods which drive the piston rods from the rear wheels appears to be missing. These can be replaced. The Hornby Railway Collector's Association http://www.hrca.net/ has a list of dealers and repairers amongst its members who specialise in restoring these.

 

With the number 2301 it is a No.1 Special and probably dates from 1929 and in good condition is listed in the Ramsey guide as worth between £230 and £500. The condition as is may reduce that by about 50%.

Thank you so much, this is great info!  I have decided to keep this set for display, and I might look into fixing it up a bit.  With those connecting rods you mentioned, I found some images showing these, so I see what you mean.  Upon inspecting the locomotive further, it appears there is a plug with a rod sticking out the front on both postons, with no hole for a rod at all.  It looks permanently fixed in there.  Any idea if this could be a change on a certain year of the model, or just an odd modification someone did to this one?  Here are a couple pics to hopefully show what I mean.

 

LC&DR

8430 posts

 It looks like one of its owners has carried out an unauthentic 'repair'.

I have a tank engine version which still has a full set of rods.

Green trains are best!

@LC&DR

 It looks like one of its owners has carried out an unauthentic 'repair'.

I have a tank engine version which still has a full set of rods.

Well that's unfortunate, but it is what it is. Thanks again for your input on it.  I think I'm just going to see if I can get it running a little smoother, then I'll probably leave the rest as is.

That's a nice looking locomotive you've got there!

LC&DR

8430 posts

 Thank you.

 

These pre-War Hornby locos have a strange charm all of their own!

 

Green trains are best!

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