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Rana Temporia

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I didn’t start school until 1969 when i was 4. At my infant school I can’t remember corporal punishment but the teachers were quite strict and looking back quite sadistic in some cases. If someone had diahorreah and didn’t make it to the (outside) toilets then they used to stand them against the wall, line the whole school up opposite and then proceed to make a fool of them. Once I had asked if I could go to the toilet and was told no, there was only half an hour to wait. I didn’t make it and weed down my leg in pre-lunchtime prayers. I got told off for that and stood in the corner. We were also made to sit there until we had eaten all our food,even if it was a horrible gristly stew. 

We had corporal punishment at my junior school and this could be the cane, smacking or the slipper. The cane was given in the headmaster‘s office but any smacking was done in front of the whole school. Everyone was made to line up in the hall while the punishment was given, the children were then made to stand at the front crying until the headmaster was satisfied. 

He also used to randomly smack people for no apparent reason then make a justification up which genuinely had no basis in fact, and we all knew it. 

Once we were on a trip to the Lake District and a branch was banging on the window. One of my friends was genuinely frightened and was told to shut up and then slippered until he did so. He spent most of the rest of the night sobbing quietly.

I don’t know if Borstal worked. The children weren’t in the school so not disrupting anything there but all the people I knew who were barred from the schools and supposed to be in special school/borstal spent the days stealing cars/breaking into buildings/lighting fires etc. So not really any better for society. 

No corporal punishment at the Grammar school I went to but you didn’t mess with some of the teachers! They would find some way of getting at you, such as making you stand with arms outstretched with a blackboard rubber on each hand. If you could keep your arms up for 5 mins you avoided detention, and if you think that’s easy just try it! Your arms ached for several days afterwards. 

Col

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most model car transporters are made with poor quality cheap’n’nasty cars. think Tri-ang, Jouef/Playcraft, Lima etc. They are also the part(s) that get lost or broken first and are much more difficult to find than the wagons. I think the main reason is to keep weight down, especially with the Jouef/Playcraft bogie version with 6 cars as they were sold alongside clockwork locos and weight was a crucial factor. The articulated version had 8 cars and even 3 of these with 8 cars on each would soon build up the weight even for an electric loco. They were also not the main point of the purchase and thus of lesser interest than the wagon, so costs could be minimised by making the load in the way they did. 

I have found some very similar cars to the Jouef ones in my local £1 shop but they are made of metal and although more realistic have numbers and patterns on them. Painted up and on the bottom of the wagon, stuck in with blu-tack they are an acceptable compromise and allow the sparse actual original cars to be used where they are more visible on top. I think there are about 12 in a pack for £1. The Tri-ang ones used originally would have been designed for OO while the Lima and Jouef would have been for HO and thus will appear small next to other OO stock.

You can now buy more realistic and appropriate vehicles but they are not just two bits of plastic joined together and are priced appropriately. Just imagine how much 6 decent vehicles would add to the cost of a wagon, not to mention the weight that a train would have to pull With those modern motors and easily tripped controllers!

Col

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Undo the screw that is in the battery boxes/tanks under the loco the roof will then lift off. You should see a brass clip that is holding the pivot nut at the top of the motor bogie in place. DO NOT UNDO THE NUT. Simply slide the brass clip out of the way, you will have to lift the end slightly with a small screwdriver or similar. The motor bogie will then drop out complete. If it is a later version with pick up from the other bogie make sure you don’t stretch the wires as that could damage or move the brass pick-ups. With the bogie out you should be able to do 99% of work without dismantling anything. Do not dismantle the bogie unless you really need to as it’s a pain to get back together in the right order. You can change the brushes, clean the commutator, clean the pick-ups etc with it fully assembled. 

Col

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Thre is also another side to this, I think I read somewhere that a Dublo Duchess took 36 person hours to make. In the days when people (usually women, look at old photos of the production lines) were paid very low wages a product could be made and sold at a profit at a price that enough pepole could afford. Presumably not the factory workers though. Using the original equipment and methods today the wage alone (at minimum wage) would be over £300. Add Employers NI, Pension Costs etc to that and you are probably over £400. Add materials, overheads, profit, retailer’s profit... £500 to £600 pet loco? That is why we have cheap motors in items made overseas. Also, modern production methods to keep the costs down. 

Col

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For those of you who are questioning the sharks, the film Sharknado was on yesterday (look it up if you don’t believe me). It’s all true, well in someone’s imagination at least. 

Col

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Fully agree with MR. My interests are in locos I can fix so Tri-ang, Playcraft, early Hornby and the odd Hornby Dublo/Wrenn loco when they are available at a realistic price. I also have a couple of Grafar and Gaiety locos. Would I be prepared to pay the prices they would be if they were suddenly made again, no. Would other people want them compared to what other locos are on sale now, probably not with a limited market of a few dozen people who are 50+ And have fond memories of these ranges. 

I have a Dublo Co-Bo I paid £25 for as a non-runner. It just needed the motor cleaning. It is a cast box with poor detail and cast bogie sideframes. The current available one looks more like the prototype and although I can’t see the mechanism lasting as long as the Dublo one it is what people want. Better detail, DCC ready etc. 

There are many of these old locos available second hand if you want one. If the moulds did still exist a museum is the best place for them. The only use for some of the moulds would be a limited production of spare parts and I have already mentioned Grafar Pullman roofs But again that would be very limited. 

Col

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They were clearing out the micro scalextric sets at around £17 last week for the people who like that sort of thing. Maybe one day they will have some train sets?

Col

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When I was young cows ran away from you. Nowadays they seem ever more likely to attack, especially if you have dogs with you or they have calves. We have had several narrow escapes but the worse case of cow rage I have seen was at Grassington. We were about to climb over a stile on one of our favourite walks round there when we heard screaming and suddenly children started appearing over the wall which was around 5 feet high as they were all running from a herd of cows that had stampeded towards them. The teachers were at the back trying to direct the cows away. Luckily all everyone managed to get away but the cows were putting their front feet (hooves?) on the wall which started to collapse in places. The children and teachers wee absolutely terrified and with thenm we made a getaway over the next stile in case the cows collapsed the wall enough to get over it. 

This is a major footpath in the dales which is heavily used. I don’t know if there has been a repeat or if the school reported it. I wonder if the problem is due to a change in diet for the cows over the years (they are fed all sorts of rubbish, not just grass) or hormones making them more aggressive. As stated above, they kill people every year and we try to avoid them now, often making large detours when in the past we would have just walked through the field. 

Col

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Going Ot slightly but still on ‘foreign’ locos in the UK. What happened to the French and German locos at Steamtown when it closed to the public? 

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