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Chrissaf

Signature: Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Bio: Retired, but spent my career working in IT and Electronics. So using a PC to control things is what rocks my boat.

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Chrissaf

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Thread bumped with new information in my previous post [requested by Howard].

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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If you are describing a loco with a 'Ringfield' motor, then there are different Ringfield variants each with their own conversion technique.

 

Follow this link to this website and scroll down to the 'Ringfield' section and try and identify which 'Ringfield', if you have one, that you have. If you don't have a 'Ringfeild' then wait for others that know your loco model to answer.

 

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See also – further TIPs on how to get the best user experience from this forum. TIPs include 'How to post images' and 'How to make links clickable'.

https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/forum/tips-on-using-the-forum/

 

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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Chrissaf

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There is no 'Private Messaging' function on this forum, so even if someone had a copy to donate, there is no easy way to contact you.

 

If someone does say they have one to donate, then both parties involved have to send an email to forum@hornby.com making a request to be put in contact.

 

I suggest that the mail contains as a minimum:

 

  1. A clickable link to this thread as evidence of the mutual agreement.
  2. Your own forum 'user name'
  3. The 'user name' of the OTHER party that you want to communicate with.
  4. Whether or not you are the instigator of the request or the recipient of the request. In other words Taticmoor is the 'instigator'.

 

Whether or not that process will work without being chased, is anybodies guess. The forum admin role within Hornby is being covered by a 'caretaker' staff member as there is currently no permanent person in post.

 

There may be some resistance by Hornby staff to facilitate this contact as it is potentially a technical breach of the 'Data Protection Act'. Which is why BOTH parties have to put their agreement in email writing.

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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TIP: As a newbie poster on the forum, just be aware that the 'Blue Button with the White Arrow' is not a 'Reply to this post' button. If you want to reply to any of the posts, scroll down and write your reply in the reply text box at the bottom of the page and click the Green 'Reply' button.

 

See also – further TIPs on how to get the best user experience from this forum. TIPs include 'How to post images' and 'How to make links clickable'.

https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/forum/tips-on-using-the-forum/

 

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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Not quite sure what you mean by the term "remote" used in your question.

 

I assume that you mean a DCC controller. The only ones on the Hornby website being:

 

  • Hornby RailMaster [software] / eLink bundle.
  • Hornby Select.
  • Hornby Elite.

 

None of these controllers will be supplied with a Hornby Power Track, but might possibly be supplied with a track power Clip.

 

All three of the above controllers have 'sprung loaded press lever terminals' on the back for wire connections, thus they can be used with any 'home brewed' track connections. For DCC, wires soldered direct to rails is highly recommneded rather than the Hornby clips / tracks.

 

TIP: As a newbie poster on the forum, just be aware that the 'Blue Button with the White Arrow' is not a 'Reply to this post' button. If you want to reply to any of the posts, scroll down and write your reply in the reply text box at the bottom of the page and click the Green 'Reply' button.

 

See also – further TIPs on how to get the best user experience from this forum. TIPs include 'How to post images' and 'How to make links clickable'.

https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/forum/tips-on-using-the-forum/

 

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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By PSU I assume you mean the R8213 controller and not the transformer in the wall socket that plugs into it.

 

That assumption is wrong.

 

Rob does indeed mean the PSU that plugs into the mains wall socket. What he was trying to convey to you in his reply is that the Select controller is compatible with both the 1 amp PSU that ships with the Select as well as the P9300 4 amp PSU that can be purchased as an upgrade.

 

When the 4 amp upgrade PSU is used, it is the Select that performs the 'short circuit' protection. However, with the default factory supplied 1 amp PSU, it is the PSU itself that is relegated to perform the bulk of the 'short circuit' protection [because the 1 amp PSU cannot supply the 4 amps for which the Select short circuit protection is designed for]. Thus when a 'short circuit' occurs, the output of the 1 amp PSU drops voltage to protect itself. This drop in voltage on the DC power input of the Select means that there is insufficient voltage to maintain the normal operation of the Select and things like fading screen and other observations can happen. The output of the 1 amp PSU varies up and down and trying to stabilise itself for as long as the fault condition exists.

 

Now it may be that one or other of your locos is causing a 'short circuit' condition. But it is also fairly commonly reported for users to have faulty 1 amp PSU where even normal operating currents [i.e not a short circuit condition] still cause the 1 amp PSU to go into 'protection mode'.

 

Rob's suggested diagnostic tests that he documented are trying to diagnose whether the fault lies with a loco or the PSU. By measuring the voltage output of the PSU [not the Select controller output] as the track load increases, you can then measure whether the PSU output remains constant at 15 volts DC or exhibits a significant drop in voltage [say less than 10 volts]. If a drop is observed when the track load is very low, then it is more likely that the PSU is faulty.

 

Note: a low track load, would be when only a single loco is on the track running sedately to moderate.

 

Note also: that if just the act of placing the loco on the track, even if you are not commanding it to move causes the observed fault condition, then the fault is more likely to lie in the loco.

 

As you can't access the output of the PSU when it is plugged into the Select, then you would need to make an adaptor cable to give access to the connector pins so that a voltage can be measured. To make such an adaptor you would need a DC coax socket and a DC Coax plug with a 6.3mm outer barrel and a 3.0 or 3.1mm inner pin. You would also need to purchase a Multimeter if you don't currently have one. Given that these components would need to be sourced and an adaptor cable constructed, the easiest option as the set is a new purchase is just to exchange it with the retailer.

 

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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Most definitely faulty. You will have to pressure the retailer to take responsibility to take it back and exchange it ... it is their responsibility to resolve.

 

Who was the retailer ... others might have had similar dealings with them.

 

TIP: As a relative newbie poster on the forum, just be aware that the 'Blue Button with the White Arrow' is not a 'Reply to this post' button. If you want to reply to any of the posts, scroll down and write your reply in the reply text box at the bottom of the page and click the Green 'Reply' button.

 

See also – further TIPs on how to get the best user experience from this forum. TIPs include 'How to post images' and 'How to make links clickable'.

https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/forum/tips-on-using-the-forum/

 

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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See also:

https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/forum/problems-with-tts-j36-sound-decoders/?p=3/#post-351840

 

The thread above is the orignal post and thread relating to the post above and gives the history of the issue.

 

The timeline of the original thread above continues after the timestamp of this started thread and indicates that the 'resolution' may not be as 'cut n dry' as this thread indicates.

 

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

Chrissaf

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TTS decoders have a habit of exhibiting 'DC Runaway'. This is why Hornby probably changed the industry standard default value of CV29 from 6 to 2. With a value of 2 'DC Operation' in the decoder is disabled. In theory, enabling / disabling 'DC Operation' should not have any effect on 'direction issues', so there would appear to be a bug in the decoder firmware [software] that is causing it. By making your decoder CV29 = 6 you may possibly see 'DC Runaway' happening, where the loco suddenly shoots off at full speed and cannot be stopped by the DCC controller.

 

EDIT: Rob posted whilst I was still typing.

Chris........ Making the wood in the trees visible.

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