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SIs OO gauge live steam range given up?

I find the 00 gauge live steam range a wonderfull concept.

But has Hornby given up on it and us?

Why don't we see new things appear, or a healty stock that you can order from?

Same goes for spear parts and an refilments.

Seartching on their webside, it seems that they want to forget this range asap.

Sorry I have to say this, but after market is a real disaster with Hornby.

 

Cheers,

Danny

RAF96

13328 posts


Community Moderator

The Live Steam range was taken from the catalogue years ago and there is no indication Hornby will ever restart the range, much to many peoples’ dissapointment.

Rob

Halton Brat - Running Win 10, 64-bit - RM (Pro-Pack) with Elite as Controller-A, Select as Walkabout and E-Link as Controller-B - Locos are mostly TTS. http://www.halton96th.org.uk/robs_rails.html

gowest

1047 posts

As RAF said gone for good if ever it was to come back it will look nothing like the first system and be much modified in control and design so not a comparable system. Getting spares for non steam models is getting harder some stockists have less and less so the complete picture of model railways is changing what happens in the future is any ones guess. 

This is what I thought that happend, typical Hornby.

They produce, and lets be honest, quite expencive system, making everybody warm to buy it, and then let their customars sit stone cold.

I would understand that new ranges are stoped due to expencive production costs and not big enough audiance.

But at least see to it, that refilments and spare parts are availeble for the costomers who did the investment.

Sorry to say this, and I'm being polite here, customer services are hard to find at Hornby.

Instead they let their customars solve everything under them self in a forum, that's cheap!

Who can tell me witch oil is the alternative?

Cheers,

Danny

GNR-Gordon-4

4610 posts

The Live Steam range is long gone. I can’t see it ever coming back, despite the demand for the Live Steam locomotives that were produced. I would eat one of my dirty socks, if Hornby ever brought back Live Steam.

 

If it was ever brought back, it would be need to be much easier to control and the price was around £500.00 for each locomotive when they were produced around 14 years ago, so the RRP for Live Steam today would well over £1,000.00, which is limiting the market to only a small percentage of buyers.

 

I don’t believe it was very successful, hence why it was discontinued. Maybe the cost of each locomotive to buy, reflected on this and the difficulty to control a locomotive.

 

GNR-Gordon-4

A Thomas & Friends OO, HO and OO-9 Model Railway Gauge's Collector Since 2005, an Eddie Stobart Spotter and Collector Since 2010 and an Airfix QUICK BUILD Collector Since 2017

gowest

1047 posts

@null_null98

This is what I thought that happend, typical Hornby.

They produce, and lets be honest, quite expencive system, making everybody warm to buy it, and then let their customars sit stone cold.

I would understand that new ranges are stoped due to expencive production costs and not big enough audiance.

But at least see to it, that refilments and spare parts are availeble for the costomers who did the investment.

Sorry to say this, and I'm being polite here, customer services are hard to find at Hornby.

Instead they let their customars solve everything under them self in a forum, that's cheap!

Who can tell me witch oil is the alternative?

Cheers,

Danny

hi 

try looking up Premium Steam Oil Componded 460 it works for me and you get 1 ltr for about £7.00

Ken

walkingthedog

19520 posts

I wonder if the Live Steam product was popular. If it had been surely it would have continued. I know quite a lot of railway modellers but not one who purchased Live Steam. 

 

I thought it was a fantastic product but didn't buy it because I think it needs it’s own layout and I didn’t have the space. 

WTD ........... Nurse, the screens.

GNR-Gordon-4

4610 posts

I don't think it was popular WTD. One reason it was discontinued. This was probably due to how difficult they were to use and the coast of them, when they were in production.

 

I agree with you. If one wanted the complete Live Steam set, they would need their own layout. To me this just can't be mixed with standard OO Gauge locomotives, despite the standard range and Live Steam range being the same gauge of OO.

 

GNR-Gordon-4

A Thomas & Friends OO, HO and OO-9 Model Railway Gauge's Collector Since 2005, an Eddie Stobart Spotter and Collector Since 2010 and an Airfix QUICK BUILD Collector Since 2017

PlanesTV

49 posts

Hornby Live Steam was launched in 2003 and sales at first were tremendous but fell sharply as the brand got a reputation for being difficult to control. A4 production stopped in 2004 but they only finally sold out in 2011.

I bought my first A4 in 2009, loved it and started taking LS to model railway shows in 2010 in a crusade to get Hornby to promote them. I couldn't understand why Hornby were not demonstrating them - viewers loved them but I was finding lots of people who had had them, crashed them and given up. Dealers I spoke to were often venomous having had customers bring them back either under guarantee - "wouldn't work properly" or wanting to trade them in. Second hand prices were rock bottom.

A small group of us fans started the OO Live Steam Club for self support should Hornby ever cease support. Incidentally, that support has been exemplary. Locos long out of guarantee were repaired FOC or for a very low price. 

But, why did I enjoy my purchases when others had nothing but problems? It was 2 or 3 years before I found out........

I NEVER GOT AN INSTRUCTION BOOK!

I first bought a loco only - they dont come with instructions - and a second hand controller with hand-typed xeroxed instructions. When I actually read the Hornby Operator's Manual a couple of years later I realised why owners had such problems.

IF YOU FOLLOW THE ADVICE AND INSTRUCTIONS IN THE HORNBY OPERATOR'S MANUAL YOU WILL CRASH YOUR LOCOMOTIVE.

The OO Live Steam Club Roadshow invites people to 'Have a go' and we have had 4 year olds finding them perfectly easy to control.

One of Hornby's directors recently said to us "We let a halo product go".

But all is not lost - there are over 10,000 models out there waiting for a new lease of life with owners who have the correct instructions courtesy of the OO Live Steam Club.

 

  and check this link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q_AxKEFigA

gowest

1047 posts

I also share your thoughts and I think with any evaluation in time electronics and the engineering would have improved as with any product the A3 design is much better than the A4 design and the last A3 locos built were the best for many reasons so even under the Hornby name things were changing but once the bad name for the product was out there it was time to stop production and invest on the standard electric models. As many know I have some 7 engines built around the better A4 engine. Over the years I seen most engineering item that carried a tag that slowed the sales of there product like Vauxhall back in the 50's were known as rust buckets Ford were just tinny cars Austin were Grandad cars, Vespa were hair dryers not motor bikes the list goes on so this type of tag is hard to shake off And is one reason why they will not be coming back.

Ken

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