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Hi folks, 

Yup, another question.. :)

Is there a way to tell what year my locos were made? I have the R numbers, but that just seems to give me that model and it's generally giving me a list of years it was made,  which can be a quite a broad range on some..

Thanks in advance



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This site may help you - http://www.hornbyguide.com/

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87 posts

That is the site I have been using.. but take my scottie for example, r850/5  doesnt come up but r850 does, but is listed from 68-71,  any way of narrowing it down more?


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 Probably not because models were produced over a number of consecutive years with no change of catalogue number and unlike today the catalogue number will apply to variations as well. The ubiquitous 'Jinty' R52 was in production for over 10 years and in that time despite carrying the same running number (47606) it received at least 4 different liveries (plain black with BRITISH RAILWAYS in tank sides, plain black with first BR emblem , lined black with first BR emblem, lined black with second BR crest) the only major change to the catalogue number was the addition of a suffix 'S' if the loco was fitted with smoke. Other changes included the move of the securing screw from the chimney to the side, the fitting of turned brass safety valves instead of plastic mouldings, and  inevitable change of couplings.


You may find a year printed on the instruction leaflet, if you still have that.

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6299 posts

Just curious - why do you want to know?

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Try this one as well...



Halton Brat - Running Win 10, 64-bit - RM (Pro-Pack) with Elite as Controller-A, Select as Walkabout and E-Link as Controller-B - Locos are mostly TTS. http://www.halton96th.org.uk/page21.html

Going Spare

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If you still have the instruction sheet which would have been with the locomotive when first sold, this will give you an accurate date of manufacture, stamped in the top right hand corner of the front page.



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Only two of my locos have any paperwork, this was all my grandads stuff, and it seems the only thing he prized were his two wrenns, both still in boxes with all  papers.. everything else was wrapped up in old tea towels and in Peter Jones bags..

Going Spare

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If your Flying Scotsman is in LNER livery, it is likely to be R855 whereas if it is in BR livery, it is R850.  According to Pat Hammond's book, R855 was produced from 1968 until 1977 before being replaced as R845 in 1978 and then R322 in 1980.  R850 was in production only between 1968 and 1970.

To determine the approximate year of manufacture of your model, and assuming it has not been modified from its original specification, early examples (1968 to c1974) had all-plastic bogie and pony truck wheels and a light in the firebox to give a glowing effect.  In 1974 the firebox glow light was deleted and metal-treaded wheels were fitted to the bogie.  In 1980, the firebox casting was replaced by a flat chassis extension casting and finer driving wheels were fitted, with half-depth flanges on the centre wheels which had been flangeless before, plus metal-treaded wheels in the pony truck.  These differences are shown on Service Sheets 76, 89, 89A and 89B. 


 Hi There

For your information and that of other Hornby members I keep a database of all Triang/Triang-Hornby/Hornby models produced since about 1952. I can also provide service sheets almost back to Number 1. If you want to contact me I am sure The Collectors Club could forward details to me.


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