Jeff Mennell Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Hi, I've recently bought a used (old) class 08 (about mid 80's) but have no idea how to get the body off for servicing. I don't want to break anything by forcing it uneccessarily and cannot find any info on the web. Can anybody help me please? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huwsie Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Hello JeffWelcome to the forum.Is it a Hornby model? Can you post some pictures of the underside of the loco. We may be able to better help you from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 This Hornby Class 08 has mid 1980s manufacturing dates. Scroll down the page for a selection of Hornby Service Sheets to choose from..http://www.hornbyguide.com/item_details.asp?itemid=97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Quite possibly the "Clip on" body. The clip is in the "front" (Bonnet end) Buffer beam....A small square cut-out with a black clip visible inside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Hello JeffWelcome to the forum.Is it a Hornby model? Can you post some pictures of the underside of the loco. We may be able to better help you from there.I have these 2 pics. The underside view is from adifferent classof loco but is the same chassis!/media/tinymce_upload/9c491bf48f1e4a55082d4a1e2ca3d295.jpg/media/tinymce_upload/fab0a1f6df486b090d1cd28568e20a27.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Hi, the sheet that relates to the loco is 114 (1978-1980), however it doesn't say how to get the body off!Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Quite possibly the "Clip on" body. The clip is in the "front" (Bonnet end) Buffer beam....A small square cut-out with a black clip visible inside?Yes I see that...... what does one do next??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Hornby Service Sheet No114.pdfFor the benefit of others who may be trying to assist, HSS114 is linked above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 It's a Hornby model, and is X.03 motor powered. Your BR Blue model is R.780. 08 201 The Green one is R.156 and the same model a class 08 shunter in BR Green, also X.03 poowered. Have a look at part X.907, it simply unclips from the body, there is a lug in the front buffer beam and two prongs that fit into the back buffer beam as per part X.907. Gentle handling is required to ease the back lugs out of their slots or you can ease the front lug out of it's slot, a flat bladed screwdriver is the best tool to use. It is a careful slowly slowly job to avoid damage to the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 And it is in beautiful condition. Not that that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 It's a Hornby model, and is X.03 motor powered. Your BR Blue model is R.780. 08 201 The Green one is R.156 and the same model a class 08 shunter in BR Green, also X.03 poowered. Have a look at part X.907, it simply unclips from the body, there is a lug in the front buffer beam and two prongs that fit into the back buffer beam as per part X.907. Gentle handling is required to ease the back lugs out of their slots or you can ease the front lug out of it's slot, a flat bladed screwdriver is the best tool to use. It is a careful slowly slowly job to avoid damage to the body.Thank you for the info Triangman I'll give it a go later! Incidentally I bought a Triang track cleaning wagon off a 'Triangman' a couple of weeks ago, could this be yourself?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Not me I used to have my own model railway business, but closed it last year. It will re-open if the market picks up this year. Glad to be able to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Not me I used to have my own model railway business, but closed it last year. It will re-open if the market picks up this year. Glad to be able to help.I have quite a few Triang wagons and a couple of coaches from the TC series one of which looks like this :-/media/tinymce_upload/6d6af3900f12dd245d5cf17c618abb5e.jpgMinus the glass canopy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 One extra point... This type, using the B12 Chassis Block and "automatic uncoupler" were later replaced with a newer model, using the "Standard" 0--6-0 chassis....I think this is still made as the Railroad Model? Some (if not all) clip-on later 08 bodies have a plastic adaptor in the cab, that the two prongs on the chassis locate into. This clips into the body....do not loose it! 😉 The chassis used, the same as for the Jinty (and E2, LNER J83?, etc...) is used "Backwards" in the shunter. Incidently this is "traditional", as the original Tri-ang Railways 0-6-0 Diesel Shunter also uses the Jinty Chassis in "backwards", with an adaptor plate (two versions of said plate over the years!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 One extra point... This type, using the B12 Chassis Block and "automatic uncoupler" were later replaced with a newer model, using the "Standard" 0--6-0 chassis....I think this is still made as the Railroad Model? Some (if not all) clip-on later 08 bodies have a plastic adaptor in the cab, that the two prongs on the chassis locate into. This clips into the body....do not loose it! 😉 The chassis used, the same as for the Jinty (and E2, LNER J83?, etc...) is used "Backwards" in the shunter. Incidently this is "traditional", as the original Tri-ang Railways 0-6-0 Diesel Shunter also uses the Jinty Chassis in "backwards", with an adaptor plate (two versions of said plate over the years!).That's interesting as I have 2 Jintys (one from the early 60's and one from 1971) and they both use the x04 motor (brass worm) not the x03 as suggested by Triangman. Both Jintys are in the process of being restored. Many thanks, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I didn't suggest the jinties had X.03 motors, I was talking about the two 08 shunters in the pics. Both products of the 1970's and early 80's era. The two 08's you have in the pics are X.03 powered. The X.03 replaced the X.04 as a cost saving exercise. The X.03 is most easily identified by it's lack of lubrication felts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo1707820979 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I have quite a few Triang wagons and a couple of coaches from the TC series one of which looks like this :-/media/tinymce_upload/6d6af3900f12dd245d5cf17c618abb5e.jpgMinus the glass canopy!Hi Jeff.Although we are straying from the 08 subject heading, here 2 photos of TC obs. cars which I have. As in your case, the canopy easily goes missing as it is a fairly loose fit. I am trying to sort out a few passengers for mine, which I have fitted with the Train-Tec LED lighting. The later obs. car in my opinion is not so attractive but it is an interesting addition to the fleet. A bit battered too ! ☹️/media/tinymce_upload/bf8bb6678f4de92f794425d5aea20ec8.JPG/media/tinymce_upload/0ea3a08b6bb8c55e5641117d5d0f3f75.jpgThese TC series coaches and locos have a particular charm, I find. Have you downloaded the Triang catalogues ? Very pleasant to glance through them, as well as being a valuable source of information. Well worth the effort.I am thinking of removing the couplings from the "viewing end" as they seem quite illogical.Kind regards, Jimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 There was at laest one batch of old style cast "Jinty" type chassis with X.03 (New Type) motors. I have a Pannier Tank (R.041) with the X.03 motor. There was a Front Wheel Drive 0-6-0 "Jinty Type" chassis that used the X.03. Not the most successful Hornby Chassis, and the front worm interfered with uncoupling ramps! This was replaced by the "SSPP" (Super Strong Pulling Power) type 0-6-0 "Jinty Type" Chassis, with centre drive (with traction tyres) and the rear axle sprung. I THINK that these were originally X.03 powered, before changing to the "Type 7" disposable motor.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 I didn't suggest the jinties had X.03 motors, I was talking about the two 08 shunters in the pics. Both products of the 1970's and early 80's era. The two 08's you have in the pics are X.03 powered. The X.03 replaced the X.04 as a cost saving exercise. The X.03 is most easily identified by it's lack of lubrication felts.I got confused there TM, sorry about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 I have quite a few Triang wagons and a couple of coaches from the TC series one of which looks like this :-/media/tinymce_upload/6d6af3900f12dd245d5cf17c618abb5e.jpgMinus the glass canopy!Hi Jeff.Although we are straying from the 08 subject heading, here 2 photos of TC obs. cars which I have. As in your case, the canopy easily goes missing as it is a fairly loose fit. I am trying to sort out a few passengers for mine, which I have fitted with the Train-Tec LED lighting. The later obs. car in my opinion is not so attractive but it is an interesting addition to the fleet. A bit battered too ! ☹️/media/tinymce_upload/bf8bb6678f4de92f794425d5aea20ec8.JPG/media/tinymce_upload/0ea3a08b6bb8c55e5641117d5d0f3f75.jpgThese TC series coaches and locos have a particular charm, I find. Have you downloaded the Triang catalogues ? Very pleasant to glance through them, as well as being a valuable source of information. Well worth the effort.I am thinking of removing the couplings from the "viewing end" as they seem quite illogical.Kind regards, JimboThanks for the info Jimbo. I never use mine. I wonder if a replacement canopy would be easy to source cos I might just flog em? Regards, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 The first series TC "OBO" is a bit of a mystery, as regards a prototype.... But the second series cars are very Canadian in appearence.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo1707820979 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Hi JeffI doubt a replacement canopy is available - but you never know. I think the Triang experts in a better position to help you on this. I am a relative beginner.In any case your TC items would sell on EBay, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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